Hello Gosselin fans! I always try to be the first one out there with all that is Jon & Kate Gosselin, good or bad, for you to review. Lately I realized that I am basically giving you just my thoughts on how I feel about Jon going out and living his life not realizing how badly things can get twisted. And now that the show is so huge I don't know how he could think that he can go to a bar like the rest of us and not have it splashed across a tabloid and be made into a huge spectacle. You can read the article HERE. I didn't post it all because ALOT is speculation. I would like you to share your own thoughts....The new issue of Us Weekly has shocking, exclusive pictures of the Jon & Kate Plus 8 dad leaving a club at 2 a.m. -- with a mystery woman and without his wedding band.
Jon Gosselin arrived at the club at 11:20 p.m. and by 2 a.m. "could barely walk" as he exited the less-public back entrance of Legends Lounge -- near the family's $1.3-million home in Wernersville, Pennsylvania -- on April 18, a fellow partier tells Us Weekly.
Where was his wife Kate -- known for her insults and who famously once berated him for breathing on the show? Nearly 2,000 miles away, promoting her book Eight Little Faces in Bellevue, Washington. While TLC had no comment on the story or the couple's marital status, Jon sent an emailed statement to Us."I went to Legends to speak to the owner. A friend of mine wanted to check out my car, so I let her drive it to her car," he says. "Yes, I have female friends -- but that is all she is. I'm not going to end my friendships just because I'm on TV."
UPDATE: Jon has made another statement: Read HERE. Thanks! 3KMOM!
109 comments:
Jon is Naive, clearly Kate is the mature one in the family. He should be able to live his life as before, but a mature, intelligent man would know his actions would be under scrutiny now that he is on TV. Unfortunately everything he does, even if innocent will be picked apart not only by the haters, but every paparrazzi with a camera. Sad but true. I don't read the 'garbage' papers, mags and tabloids. If we buy then just to read the 'scoop' that makes us just as bad as the people giving it ink. I think they ought to just keep on going on, but Jon should remember that everything he does is going to affect his family now, and act accordingly.
That is my 2 cents, worth exactly what you paid for it.
I agree Cindy! I hate that it has to be like that. But Jon is deep enough into this situation that he needs to start being a lot more careful about what he does. I am not making a judgement on if his side of the story is true. There is no way for me to know that, or anyone else for that matter. But, I am getting tired of all these stories about him in the tabloids that he could prevent from even surfacing with a little common sense.
Sad! Very Sad. I hope that all is well.
Cindy said...
Jon is Naive, clearly Kate is the mature one in the family. He should be able to live his life as before, but a mature, intelligent man would know his actions would be under scrutiny now that he is on TV. Unfortunately everything he does, even if innocent will be picked apart not only by the haters, but every paparrazzi with a camera. Sad but true. I don't read the 'garbage' papers, mags and tabloids. If we buy then just to read the 'scoop' that makes us just as bad as the people giving it ink. I think they ought to just keep on going on, but Jon should remember that everything he does is going to affect his family now, and act accordingly.
April 28, 2009 10:49 PMTotally agree with everything you said Cindy.
Jennifer, you're right. He needs to use common sense.
Most of all, I believe a married man of 8 should not be at a bar without his wife. Period.
Fan or non-fan (no, I am not a "hater") there is obviously some trouble at home.
Kate needs to rethink her schedule with Zondervan. These precious children will hear about these stories and it could be very harmful.
It is almost as if Jon is doing this on purpose - he said he wanted to stop. Maybe this was the only way he could think of shutting it down. He was such a young dad, maybe he just didn't get all the oats sown.
Please believe me when I say this makes me very sad for the whole family. I don't care for Kate but I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
Who drove home? I hope SHE did. If he was staggering drunk, he was in NOOOOOOOOO condition to drive. DRINKING AND DRIVING KILLS! Tsk.
I really hate when the taloids try to tear relationships apart.
But at the same time, Jon knows they are after him & Kate right now and that they are trying to fabricate stories about them so a very simple solution...don't be out and about at 2:00am that just feeds into the media frenzy.
For the record, I do not believe that they are splitting or that Jon is a cheater. I believe they have a strong marriage but I do think now that they are "celebrities" he needs to be a bit more aware of the paps. Just for the fact that rumors and allegations can cause a lot of stress.
This magazine cover does not establish that Jon is having an affair for me. However, it does confirm that he is up to no good whatsoever. I would be pissed if this was my husband going out with another woman until the wee hours in the morning. Friend or no friend. When you're married and actually faithful to someone, things like that are simply inappropriate. And while Jon was out gallavanting with this woman and Kate out in Washington, who was with the kids? I guess the "helper who is by no means a nanny." I am not a Kate "hater", in fact I love the show and watch faithfully. I do not care for her actions on the show sometimes, but hey, she's human.
OK So two weeks ago my mother was livid when I called begging her to sleep over because I made plans on my husbands Friday bar night. She couldn't understand why a man in his 30's still felt the need every other Friday to go out to a bar. She knew that we have been doing this for over 10 years but still didn't understand why he wasn't going to stay home with his kids. It was HIS night and he looks forward to it. And the fact that he still has single friends doesn't help.
Everyone lives differently, and I was never thrilled with him still feeling the need to go out. By when HE stays home, and I go to Pampered Chef parties, scrapbooking or GASP! even a club, I realize how truly important this arrangment is for the both of us. I LOOK forward to going out, flirting (if applicable lol) and having a fun night away from my family. I am blessed I can do that.
Now getting back to JON: Who knows WHAT his mid-life situation is. Its obvious that he takes advantage of when Kate's not around. We know that he's a stay-at-home dad and feels very lost in his new role. My husband did it for two weeks and went back to work. What he doesn't realize is that he CANT do stupid crap like this anymore if he wants to his show, his balls, and his family intact. His ears would have been pinned by me already. I truly, truly feel sorry for Kate at this point. It will be interesting to see if the both of them DO show up May 2nd for the Woman's Show in PA knowing people will want an explanation for this. Are they entitled to one? Maybe, maybe not. I for one feel that hes immature, not realizing the consequences of his actions at this point. Was it just stupid on his part? Depends on who you ask...I get it, but many will not.
Typical of the tabloids to insinuate that Kate's to blame.
On the plus side, season five's rating is going to be through the roof!
I haven't read the article yet, just the excerpts listed on this blog, but does it state who took the pictures? I would be very surprised if paparazzi are in PA... maybe if J&K lived in LA or NYC, but PA?!
Was the picture snapped by someone who just happened to be in the right (or wrong) place at the right time?
I feel for the family, especially the children. They did not ask to be put in a petri dish to be closely examined. I hope that Jon and Kate can take a step back and truly evaluate if this is just a fun experience to create and document memories, or if it has grown into a monster of its own.
Personally, if it were me, I would refocus on my family and less on my job (in their particular case their show). Obviously Jon is acting out, most likely even trying to get caught. Time to close the blinds, J&K. The viewing public does not need to see the train derail in real time.
Cindy, you're right. My heart breaks for the family though!
I don't think that he is cheating on Kate, but nevertheless, when you're married it's almost an automatic rule that you don't just hang out with a woman, or if you're female, you don't just chill with another man. I know that's not the case here, but I wonder if they allow themselves the freedom of hanging out with opposite-sex friends like that. It just doesn't seem like they would.
When I saw this post it made me soo sad!! I don't like where this is headed. I hope and pray that they beat the odds and bounce back from this. IMO Jon did or should have known better but made an immature and inappropriate decision. The appearance of impropriety DOES matter! You don't see Kate hanging out with male friends that late at night in a bar. Whether or not it was all innocent and I pray it was, it was inappropriate in a big way for as big of a celebrity has he is now. He did seem angry in his e-mail about not dumping female friends b/c of his status. I can understand being angry at the paps having control over his life in that way but fame does come at some sort of cost, you can't have that lifestyle and have everything else too. Not that I think celebs deserve it but the point is when it comes down to it, it was the appearance of impropriety and I imagine Kate is embarrased and I feel so sad for her, I know how embarrased I would feel to have to deal w/ that and I feel for her right now. Hopefully Jon will put Kate's feelings above his own and make better decisions as a husband. He has a wonderful family it would be so sad to see him throw it all away. (once again not saying he has cheated yet but his actions look to be headed that way)
geesh, i hate seeing this. 8 kids and out at the bar, imo, not acceptable!
i wish these 2 would get their heads out of the clouds and realize that they are having issues and come to a compromise! ugh! just stinks!
I am so saddened and frustrated by this post and the latest Gosselin drama!
I wonder if the Gosselins church approves of this kind of behavior?
Personally, this is a hard one for me! I have erased what I have written now 2 times because even though I am HUGE fan, I am VERY judgmental of this situation!
All I can say is that this is indeed very sad and if my husband acted this way I would be heart broken!
I will pray for them!
I don't care that Jon was out @ a bar. I don't care that a female was in the car w/ him. My husband & I have mutual friends both male & female & @ some point have been in vehicles together w/ one or more of them when the other wasn't along. What I do care about is those children and the damage all this gossip could do to them. The twins are old enough to hear this @ school. Jon knows what happened in Feb. yet he still continues to play his "while the cat is away, the mice will play" games. He is behaving like an idiot and needs to get a grip.
Thresa had you ever thought maybe Kate should stay home and take care of her family instead of trying to be a "Star". I feel so badly for those poor children. Jon is wrong but so is Kate. I guess I don't understand why her part isn't seen in this. You cannot treat someone the way she does and expect him to keep taking it. I'm sure this will not be posted but you asked for opinions and this is mine.
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/04/29/2009-04-29_jon__kate_plus_8s_jon_gosselin_caught_with_another_woman.html
This article says a little bit more and quotes Jon as saying he's sorry his family has been hurt by his poor judgement and maintains that the woman was a friend
ya know - everything about this story just totally bums me out. The more I see about it, the more I feel bad for the family.
Bunny Girl said...
Thresa had you ever thought maybe Kate should stay home and take care of her family instead of trying to be a "Star". I feel so badly for those poor children. Jon is wrong but so is Kate. I guess I don't understand why her part isn't seen in this. You cannot treat someone the way she does and expect him to keep taking it. I'm sure this will not be posted but you asked for opinions and this is mine.
April 29, 2009 12:11 PMWell I don't know why you singled me out Bunny, but I'll take it and respond to you.
I don't think Kate is out being a "Star"...that's your opinion. I do think she's the breadwinner in this family and the roles have changed. (if you go thru this blog, I'm sure we talked about this). She's out making the money to secure their future. Do I think Kate should be home more? Yeah, I do. But, I don't blame her for her idiotic husband being out on the town in the wee hours of the morning. A respectable husband and father does not do that.
Nor, do I assume that it's because of her more domineering behavior towards Jon that caused him to do this (as I think your statement here...You cannot treat someone the way she does and expect him to keep taking it. indicates. And, I don't think she's caught up in being a "star". I think she's working on what comes after the time they shut down production. I don't fault her for that. I think that's a good thing. And that's why he needs to step up.
She (and her personality) didn't cause him to do anything. He needs to grow up and work with her and be the man of that family.
He should've learned from his experience with the college girls pic a few months ago. He's an adult. As a married adult, he should be honoring his vows and keeping his wife, her feelings and their family at the top of his list (despite what you think of her). That's what a married person does. It's teamwork. You don't let off steam in a public way like that,especially if you are a part of a popular show and a team (your spouse).
Just a note...as with the incident with the Juanita college girls...Kate seems to be off radar. Hmmm....coincidence??
Oh, have you all read the latest on radaronline?
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/04/exclusive-eyewitness-account-%E2%80%9Cjon-kate%E2%80%9D-star-busted-cheating
When will you all stop defending Jon and Kate and start defending those 8 innocent children who have done nothing but earn a living for their parents. And this is the thanks they get. Two parents who can't even be bothered to stay home w/them. You don't think Mady and Cara will hear about all this at school.
The only difference between jon and kate and everyone else is there are on TV! There are tons of people that do the same things as jon and he only gets noticed because he is on tv. They shouldnt no live there life because they are on tv.
I heard about this earlier today Debbie. I just wrote a blog about it and then read your message. It makes me very sad. I think this marriage is in real trouble.
My opinion is, is that Jon is not feeling appreciated by Kate. Believe me when I say this, but I am not a Kate basher and I think you know this, but I think Kate needs to settle down and stay home more and stop traveling so much. I know Jon loves his kids, but he isn't getting the attention from his wife that he needs, so when he does go out and young women are throwing themselves at him, it must feel great. How many men or women would love to get that attention if they aren't getting it at home.
I am not condoning his behavior, but I think that
at this point if this marriage is going to have a chance, they need the cameras off and they need to focus on the family. JMO
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It IS the eight kids that I care about, Ome Omy. As with all the crap that's been written by their mother over on other blogs, I think it will certainly get back to at least Cara and Mady.
That's the bottom line. All 8 kids are in a precarious position to begin with, now this crap hits the fan. That's why Jon shouldn't be out gallabanting.
I'm still rooting for them no matter what. We don't know what's officially going on behind the scenes. Hopefully Jon's making amends and we see them smiling together soon. We all make stupid decisions, and I hate to rake someone over the coals for theirs. Things get misinterrpreted, and w/ him sayig he's sorry it has hurt his family, hopefully it won't happen again.
3KMOM said...
I'm still rooting for them no matter what. We don't know what's officially going on behind the scenes. Hopefully Jon's making amends and we see them smiling together soon. We all make stupid decisions, and I hate to rake someone over the coals for theirs. Things get misinterrpreted, and w/ him sayig he's sorry it has hurt his family, hopefully it won't happen again.
April 29, 2009 12:52 PMAbsolutely 3KMOM, me too. I hope that happens, too.
As with all the crap that's been written by their mother over on other blogs, I think it will certainly get back to at least Cara and Mady.Oops! I meant to say "all the crap that's written ABOUT their mother".
Theresa, what does "all the crap" written about their mother have to do with whether the twins hear about it or not? You know as well as I do, it takes two to make a marriage and it takes two to ruin a marriage. Kate said when one of the kids no longer wants to do the show, they'll stop. Jon didn't want to do the 5th season, surely Kate should care how HE feels about continuing. I wish I could understand why, if so many of you care so much about those children, you wouldn't be wanting the show to end? Once they're no longer on TV, the paps and nobody else will be following them around. Those kids deserve better than they are getting!
How frustrating it is that people buy into this crap in tabloids. People roll their eyes over ridiculous celebrity stories in magazines like US weekly but then when Jon and Kate are featured all of a sudden there's an outcry and IT MUST BE TRUE! Give me a breeaaak.
At least the ratings for season 5 will be higher than ever thanks to this nonsense !
It seems to me that "Duckie" is back and is parading as "Ome Omy"
Just sounds a little too familiar.
Amber,
Do you believe that it is acceptable for a married father to be out closing down a bar while his wife is out of town... on television or not?? I understand blowing off steam every now and again, especially if you are in the stay-at-home parent role, as Jon is currently, but this appears to be more than just steam-blowing.
As my mother always said, if your friends jumped off a bridge, would you do it too? Just because there are other people having affairs, drinking themselves into oblivian, and hanging out sans wedding ring does not make it okay for anyone - especially not okay for someone who is on a family-based reality program or for a family who tours the country speaking at churches about their faith.
I hope that Jon and Kate are not carrying on seperate lives. I hope that Jon is telling the truth, and this just happened to be a female friend, but where there's smoke, there's usually fire!
Please, step back, Jon and Kate, and truly re-evaluate if continuing this show, public scrutiny, tabloid gossip, etc is worth it at the end of the day.
Ome Omy said...
Theresa, what does "all the crap" written about their mother have to do with whether the twins hear about it or not? You know as well as I do, it takes two to make a marriage and it takes two to ruin a marriage. Kate said when one of the kids no longer wants to do the show, they'll stop. Jon didn't want to do the 5th season, surely Kate should care how HE feels about continuing. I wish I could understand why, if so many of you care so much about those children, you wouldn't be wanting the show to end? Once they're no longer on TV, the paps and nobody else will be following them around. Those kids deserve better than they are getting!
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WOW! You have pent up anger you're directing at me, or at least letting it off on.
While we are not talking about Gwop here and I do not want this to be an exchange about it....yes, I think Cara and Mady will get wind of this, as with all that Gwop crap that talks about their mom on a daily basis.... I think that's bad for them. Just as this latest on Jon is bad for them to hear perhaps second hand.
Yes, it takes two for a marriage to work. Yes all that stuff you said about them ending the show etc. I agree with that. Jon expressed those feelings when he was caught the first time. I think he was acting and talking out of embarrassment. Things blew over and on the Green show everything seemed fine. As an adult, he should've learned from that and put his wife and family first and not be anywhere near a bar in the wee hours of the morning.
I don't know why you're attacking me. I don't care if the show ends tomorrow. There are alot of things we don't know. For you to assume and attack me and insinuate that I don't want the show to end is wrong. You're entitiled to your opinon, but don't assume my opions or drag me into an exchange just because I am not a Kate hater. Take it elsewhere.
Bunny Girl~ You are allowed to come here and post your feelings. That is the case with everyone. But if you attack Kate or any of the family, it will be deleted. Its as simple as that.
3KMom~ Thanks so much for posting that Daily News Article. I updated the front page with a link. I'm wondering if this too was part of the US Weekly article or if he made a new statement now that the magazine is hitting the stands. Am I correct to hear Friday?
"Being out with them late at night, showed poor judgment on my part. What makes me sick, is that my careless behavior has put my family in this uncomfortable position. My family is the most important thing in my life and it kills me that these allegations have hurt them."
For those of you not familiar with that area, Legends is IN the hotel referenced in the article on radaronline (The Enquirer).
Just part of the National Enquirer article.
http://ca.tv.yahoo.com/blog/most-questionable-characters-of-reality-tv--272
Normally I would have deleted the trash link that is the National Enquirer but I left up the link for you to make up your own mind. I find it a total rediculous lie and I wont beleive it till I see actual physical PROOF. Anyone can make up a story like that this point...
I will say that I was actually THERE and staying at that hotel that night. I saw him get in the car and he was NOT kissing some girl in a hallway....see how easy that was?? I wonder how much that guy got to tell that LIE?
Ome Omy and all the Haters,
When will you stop trashing Jon and Kate? This probably hurts the children more than what their parents do or the show itself!
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20275605,00.html
here is a link from people.com , it is the same info but put in a little better format i think. wow this is really making all the rounds. :(
3KMom~ This is EVERYWHERE. I have already counted 8 places that have this article. They pretty much all say the same thing, and linking them would take forever. You pretty much have it all here....
I wanted to add this but don't have the time tonight to do another post. This week "Eight Little Faces" made the New York Times Best Seller List at #5! And people are wondering why Kate is still doing her book signings.....
This week "Eight Little Faces" made the New York Times Best Seller List at #5! And people are wondering why Kate is still doing her book signings.....
Yes, Babymama, I do wonder why she is still doing book signings. Like I said in my previous post Kate should have plenty of money now and spend the time it takes with those "Eight Little Faces" to get them raised properly with both parents at home instead of others raising them. I don't mean to be harsh but can't you see this??
Bunny Girl said...
Thresa first of all you said: "That's why Jon shouldn't be out gallabanting." The term is galavanting. You really should read again what HayLaura had to say. Makes sense. I'm not hating or bashing anyone. I am just stating my opinion of what I see and hear. Maybe I was just raised 'ol school but I don't think Jon should be treated inferior at all by Kate. She is absolutely no better. I realize some of you idolize this woman for some reason but you have to admit she stopped being a good Mother and wife sometime ago. I don't mean this ugly at all, I'm just stating my opinion once again about what I see from her and what I hear when I watch. She looks nothing like any Mom does nor does she act like any Mom does. They really need to get real jobs and stop this nonsense for the sake of the children. I just hope it isn't too late. Those poor babies are going to have a rough time. Money isn't the answer to everything. They should have plenty by now. Sure the spa trips, tanning, and other amendities would stop but WOW it would be so worth enjoying life with those beautiful children. Having their family would be far greater.
April 29, 2009 2:05 PM
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First of all, it's Theresa. If you can't spell my name correctly (twice), then allow me to address you as Bunygirl.
Thanks for correcting me on "galavanting"...you get a gold star today!
I dont' idolize Kate. Do I like her, yeah. She doesn't bother me like she bothers a lot people (you being one of them).
She looks nothing like any Mom does nor does she act like any Mom does. They really need to get real jobs and stop this nonsense for the sake of the children.Perhaps Kate doesn't look like any Mom or act like any YOU may know, but to me, she looks normal and acts normal. People are different Buny Girl. So, you may not think she doesn't act normal or look normal, guess what? A lot of us think she does.
Also, you don't know their financial status, as you don't live their life or pay their bills. Your assumption of wanting to keep Kate ugly and at home (because that's what you are really saying) is pretty narrow minded. As is assuming a lot of what you see on the show and making it what you think their life is and should be.
I don't have the time to go back and forth with you on this. Have a nice night.
Hmmm..I'm not seeing it on the NY Times list at all. Am I looking at the right list?
http://www.nytimes.com/pages/books/bestseller/
Bunny Girl~ did you not look? Its under Hardcover Advice and its #5. And if you attack Kate again consider yourself gone too with the rest of them. Again, did you NOT see my post?
I'm sure you don't THRESA. LoL..I didn't mean to hit a nerve. How you spell my nickname isn't important to me. It's merely a nickname on the internet.
I am not narrow minded at all nor do I hate Kate. I understand how all the money and fame has gone to her head and she feels as though she now needs to act and look the part of a celebrity but that is completely beside the point. She is a Mother of eight as so many have pointed out and used as an excuse for her rudeness. Maybe she should look and act like a Mother of eight and spend TIME with those eight is what I am saying. There's is no way with an honest heart you can say those children's situation is what it should be. If nothing else there is enough bashing sites out there if I were Kate I'd stop just so the children wouldn't have to see it.
LoL..that you couldn't take critisism when I corrected you, wow, maybe that's how Jon feels when Kate continually corrects him. Is that perhaps possible?
Babymama, I don't know what rest of them you mean. I don't feel as though I am bashing Kate at all. I'm just giving my honest opinion and if I cannot do that why would I want to be here anyway? I thought this was a friendly discussion. I can't be dishonest and say Kate is a great Mother and if you say she is you are less than honest as well. I liked the old Kate. The Kate in the beginning that was there and took care of her family. It's ridiculous to say that fame and money have hurt her and her family. Now, if you want to delete this you are welcome too. Just know that I am giving my honest opinion.
It's ridiculous to say that fame and money have hurt her and her family. Oops, sorry I meant to say:
It's ridiculous to say that fame and money have NOT hurt her and her family.
I think Mama has been petty accepting of negative opinions today. Thanks.
Let's all think about the children - they are who matters.
Yes Denise they are the important thing and that's is what I was trying to get across. I know sometimes I step out of line but I do worry about those babies.
If the children is all that matters than why do some people:
1. continue to write mean things about THEIR family and blow things out of proportion more than they need to be
2.say many mean things about those babies such as that they have speech delays like the other site claims they do. Think about it what will hurt the children more reading that they had speech delays or that people recognize them later in life as one of the 8 children from the show?
I believe that if people REALLY cared about the CHILDREN they would just let them be...pray to God that they grow up happy and not trash the family they are part of.
It goes with the saying
if you cant say anything nice then dont say anything at all =)
just my 2 cents
This is my first post on this site, although I have been a regular viewer. Having worked as a therapist for the last dozen years, there is an old saying, "if it looks, walks, talks, and acts like duck, it is a duck". Jon is definately either immature, dumb, has poor judgement, or all of the above. I would go with the latter, especially after the last fiasco during February. I also observe him as being very selfish because if he really "loved his children to death", he would not have done this again. He may change for the next few weeks, months, or possibly years, but his true nature will come back to haunt Kate and the children in the long run, my honest opinion. I strongly believe Kate should get out of this situation while she can(still young and gorgegous), before its too late. They could still get joint custody of the kids so that Kate can do the book tours and the speaking arrangements to support these beutiful kids. My honest, humblest opinion.
Baby Mama - are you for real? I know we are all fans of the show and I have always enjoyed your blog, but it seems like you have taken this to a ridiculous level of blind worship.
How can you say that its ok for a mom of 8 to spend all her time flying around the country, how can a dad being out in bars at 2 a.. by himself ok? I cant believe you always find an excuse for everything.
I was a fan of the show before, but it is not the same anymore, Kate is a bigger bitch everyday, Jon looks more unhappyevery day, the twins look more and more depressed and yet you can find excuses for all this.
I pray for this family and hope they can get their act together because their lives are obviously spinning out of contro.
I don't care whether it is true or not, I'm even more convinced that they should end the show....NOW. They both need to think of how this will effect the kids. I can't believe how stupid Jon is. I realize Kate is doing all this for their future, but she need not forget about the present. Sad story all around. I hope they can get through it in one piece.
In defense of Baby Mama... If you don't like what she has to say, or the opinions of others on this site, than don't read it! It's quite simple. Do you feel better about yourself berating others?
I think it's sad that Jon can't do anything without negative camera's around him. If the show never happened, he still could have gone to that bar, got into the car with his friend, and nothing would have happened...
Jon does need to pay attention to what he is doing when he isn't at home, but in the Season 4 finale, he did say he can't go anywhere without anyone knowing who he was..
I don't know what to believe. I wish Kate would issue a statement.
And since when is US Magazine a credible source?
I really feel for Jon. Maybe his judgement hasn't been the best as far as going out to the bar and etc but I think he is just looking for some freedom and an ego boost that he isn't getting at home.
Kate travels the country speaking to people and signing books while fans of the show tell her how gorgeous she is and how great she is. All the while Jon sits at home with the kids waiting for her, and then gets critizied for not using a coupon, etc etc.
Like I have said many times before, I love this show and the family but I want the best FOR ALL PARTIES involved, but I feel like Jon has given while Kate has taken from the marriage. I know that I would love to have such a devoted husband as far as helping out with the kids, not that a man shouldn't have to, but Jon always seemed to go above and beyond, with no recognition or thankfulness.
I think this whole situation is sad. It makes me wish that they would have just stuck with the one hour specials like they had in the beginning. It would have been better for the family and children for sure.
Bunny Girl said...
I'm sure you don't THRESA. LoL..I didn't mean to hit a nerve. How you spell my nickname isn't important to me. It's merely a nickname on the internet.LoL..that you couldn't take critisism when I corrected you, wow, maybe that's how Jon feels when Kate continually corrects him. Is that perhaps possible?__________________
Buny Girl, you didn't hit a nerve. It's SARCASM! Yes, I know how to take criticism. I do think your original post to me was unwarranted...singling me out for your attack on why peopele defend Kate.
I am not narrow minded at all nor do I hate Kate. I understand how all the money and fame has gone to her head and she feels as though she now needs to act and look the part of a celebrity but that is completely beside the point.Then, why would you even mention it??
She is a Mother of eight as so many have pointed out and used as an excuse for her rudeness. Maybe she should look and act like a Mother of eight and spend TIME with those eight is what I am saying.Now, this paragraph above is exactly what I mean...don't go throwing your beliefs on me. You may think she's rude. That's your opinion. I have never used her "being a mother of 8" as an excuse for her rudeness. (I dont believe Kate is rude. My opinion). As for spending TIME with her kids, she's doing what she feels is best for her family. YOU don't know the inner workings of that family (as do any of us). Stop surmising the worst and throwing it out there in blogland as "the truth".
There's is no way with an honest heart you can say those children's situation is what it should be.THIS was the most perplexing thing you've written (and attributed to me). I NEVER said that!
...singling me out for your attack on why peopele defend Kate.
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yes, I know..."people". Before anyone rags on me. LOL.
I am blown away by the commments here and on the "other" website. I know ALOT of SAHM moms who go out once a week with girlfriends and sometimes stay out just as late as Jon did. This picture does NOT mean he cheated. Maybe just maybe someone was following them in another car so she could drive Jon home b/c he was drunk and then the other car brought her back to the bar to pick up hers. THIS DOES happen!! His kids were in bed, their "nanny" or babysitter were home with kids. Maybe just maybe if Kate was home a little more often he wouldn't ahve to go out in order to have adult interactions. I can't believe how judgmental people are. Do people not trust their husbands anymore? My husband has ALOT of female friends. Women he has known his whole life and alot longer than me.
According to a "story" by someone who was there he was actually there with a guy friend.
I probably won't get posted on this site either but just my 2 cents.
The haters and child advocates that continue to post here, need to look back at the bull s**t from a couple of month ago. All you haters said was " they need to get a real job", "they are living off their children, Blah Blah Blah. Hypocrites, thats what you are. Yes I am speaking to you Bunny Girl, Omy, and sooner or later the paginator will show up. Why is it that a man can travel all over the United States for a job and that is ok? Kate has a job, it is no different from any other book writer, who goes on book signing tours. It just because it is Kate. She is doing her job and now you want her home. Why can't Jon be the stay at home parent? When the show really took off, don't you think they made the choice for Jon to quit his job. But, then with all the negative press poor Kate got, you haters put her in the spotlight. I bet it just burns you up that she is the one with the career and people love her. LOL :) Oh, by the way, if she were to go back to work as a nurse, she would be on 12 hour shifts, 4 days a week ( I have 2 sister-in-laws that are nurses), so she still would not have alot of time with the children. In my opinion Jon has showed complete immaturity and bad judgement. It just seems funny that this is taking place when Kate is out of town. However the last pic was supposedly taken on Valentines Day, but we all now know that was a lie. Because they were filming the going green on Valentine's Day. Jon used to love the cameras in his face all the time and Kate did not. But,now the tables have turned. But, I would say he needs to suck it up. They started this together and Kate had to struggle with alot and put up with it. So, Jon can return the favor to her. IMO. Also, to say Kate deserves this, is wrong. Kate's personality did not appear over night, Jon knew her attitude when he married her. Jon has said over and over that she is the strong one, the go getter, and the planner, and that she balances his fly by night demeaner. That was in the "How Did We Get Here" episode.
Kate is a wonderful and caring person.
BabyMama, Keep up all the great work. You Rock.
Baby momma
I know this is your blog and you can run it anyway you want. You stated though that if anyone attacks Kate or their family it will be deleted. Accusing Jon of cheating with NO PROOF to me is attacking. Us Magazine has said the Brad and Angelina (for example) have been breaking up and cheating on each other for like 3 years now.
I don't know I feel bad for Jon. He is getting racked through the coals for something (going out) that people do everyday! It's not like the kids were home alone in the middle of the night. They either one had the nanny stay late or he hired a babysitter for the night.
Wow, i find it so incredible that so many of the Gosselins personal friends are on here. I mean, to know so much about their marriage, income status and how they treat their family, thats incredible. They must be close friends, because I sure cant gather all that information from reading gossip blogs and watching a 25 minute tv show every week. Please, do tell us how you know all of this privy information???
The reality of it is is that NONE of us really know what is going on in that family. Was what Jon did stupid? Sure! Could it have been completely innocent? Sure!
I would hate to see how I came across if a film crew filmed me for a few days at a time and cut it down to under 30 minutes of footage. Anyone can look bad with the right editing. And lets face it, they will continue to edit it the same way showing Kate to be rude, because it is clearly working! The ratings are higher than ever because of the publicity, and no
publicity is bad publicity.
I for one will continue to watch the show and take it for what its worth. No one is perfect.
And one more thing, I still cant understand why if someone hates the show so much, they have the need to get online and look up things about them?? Why waste your time if you despise Kate so much. Grow up a little and dont say hateful things just to stir the pot, you arent accomplishing anything by saying mean things about people you dont know
Great post Jennifer! Well said and right on!
J~ I was originally going to just delete your post but I felt the need to address it.
I am VERY real thank you for asking. I appreciate the fact that you have always enjoyed my blog. But I don't feel in any way myself or the fans of the show have a ridiculous level of blind worship. That to me sounds like a hater talking, looking for an excuse to continue to bash Kate and the show. Or at least continue to talk smack about my grammar and punctuation (lol).
All kidding aside, it IS OK for a mom of 8 to fly around the country, its called WORK. I had to do it for 6 months after my first child was born. Working parents, divorced parents, its called LIFE. Making money and supporting your family is nothing to to ashamed over. How can a dad being out in bars at 2 a.. by himself ok? Again I discussed that Jon wasn't smart on this one simply because he should know at this point hes a walking target. Its OK for a married man to blow off some steam at a bar every once in a while. It's NOT OK to be photographed with someone other than your wife for ANY reason. I DO NOT always find an excuse for everything. Actually I have stated many times on my blog when I wasn't necessarily happy with something each of them may or may not have done. But I support them 100% regardless.
I'm sorry to hear that your no longer a fan of a family that's living their lives in the public eye for everyone to scrutinize.I take offense that you think that the the twins look more and more depressed everyday. I don't feel that way at all. All children are different and you do not see them everyday. In fact, I'm surprised you say that after seeing them in the last episode.
I'm glad to hear that pray for this family. But I know that the children have a loving wonderful set of parents and will be JUST fine.
First time poster, so be kind :)
In trying to help sort out viewpoints, I believe that the "hate" towards the parents (Jon and Kate) stems from the fact that they claim to do otherwise. That is, Kate claims they're home, the show makes it seem like they are always home, and they do not employ a nanny, or w/e the term was, when in fact: 1) Kate is not home very much, since she is out doing the book signing tour and whatnot 2) Jon is out partying at 2am or whatever the time 3) who is watching the kids?
From what I've gathered, if they came clean about the fact that Kate is actually out a lot, they do employ a nanny, etc., people would perhaps 'accept' them more, since they at least try to be honest. Personally, I was really upset during that one episode where Kate gets on Jon's case for not using a coupon. While yes its true that every bit counts, she is seriously yelling about a $50 purchase sans coupon, when they've managed to find a way to live in that mansion, she earns all this money from teh signings, book royalties, etc? I mean, sure, back in the day we believed they had to find ways to get by and save money, but to put on that little drama show for the sake of giving us the impression that they are still in that situation was a bit dumb, insulting that we'd believe it, and just annoying.
I really enjoy the show though, and they have a beautiful family. I love the kids and they are so fun to watch and they deserve everything that their parents can give them. I just really hope for their sake that those two get their acts together and truly, honestly do what is best for the kids.
Just my two cents, I hope this makes it on :)
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First time poster, so be kind :)
In trying to help sort out viewpoints, I believe that the "hate" towards the parents (Jon and Kate) stems from the fact that they claim to do otherwise. That is, Kate claims they're home, the show makes it seem like they are always home, and they do not employ a nanny, or w/e the term was, when in fact: 1) Kate is not home very much, since she is out doing the book signing tour and whatnot 2) Jon is out partying at 2am or whatever the time 3) who is watching the kids?
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Hello and welcome! I understand what you are trying to say here. However, I feel like they are pretty straightforward about both the kate being out of town and nanny issues. For one, they talk on numerous occasions about how they have help and even have gone as far to discuss her hours. So I dont see any dishonesty. Also, there have been several episodes where they talk about the fact that Kate had been gone away on business and there have even been shows where she was gone completely. So while I understand where you are coming from, I also am not sure J and K could do much more to be honest? I think a lot of people just see what they want to see. Are they perfect? of course not, but I do believe they are doing the best they can and have found a way to provide for their family :)
Hopefully that wasnt harsh. I appreciate your post but just wanted to add my 2cents :)
Oh and one other quick thing. About the coupon incident. I do think it was a little over the top. However, had she not stressed about the coupon, and people got wind that Jon had paid $50 for a shower head, people would be so upset that he spent so much money on a shower head. I feel like a lot of times they just cant win.
Blogger Jennifer said... Hopefully that wasnt harsh. I appreciate your post but just wanted to add my 2cents :)
Oh and one other quick thing. About the coupon incident. I do think it was a little over the top. However, had she not stressed about the coupon, and people got wind that Jon had paid $50 for a shower head, people would be so upset that he spent so much money on a shower head. I feel like a lot of times they just cant win.
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Not harsh at all, and thank you for that. :) I'm glad it made sense to someone.
I mean, I love watching the show, but I can also see some weird things going on between them sometimes, and its upsetting. Again, I just hope that whatever comes out of all of these recent events and such will be what is best for those kids.
And oh wow, haha, I hadn't even thought about that other side to that bit! That is true that he would have probably received criticism for that purchase. Interesting, good job on that one!
I see things I dont always like too. But I just have to remember that we get such a teeny tinsy glimpse into their life that there is really no way for us to make an accurate judgement on what is really going on in their home.
me again, sorry, I just keep thinking of things :)
about the shower head again. You are making an assumption that just because people do well financially and own a large home, they do not care about spending $50 on something. My parents own a large home but still clip coupons and save their money. Ok, Im done :D
First off, I live 15 minutes from Bellevue Washington and Kate NEVER came to Washington, I think if she did it would be all over the place and I would have known about it and gone. Unless someone else can back this up and tell me she did come to Seattle area, if so, man I wish I went!
Also, people look for the garbage, as far as we know, those photos could have been played with. As long as people get thier "15 minutes of fame".
HAHA, ok so I am wrong, LOL, I looked at the articles and yes she was in Bellevue, and Renton :( and I did not go. I think Jon needs to step up and be responcible and I sure hope they are not going to be getting a devorse I look up to them so much. And my husband and I talk to each other like they do each other, I love she show because it makes me feel like Im not the only one like Kate.... I look up to her I hope things will smooth out for them but Jon just needs to grow up!
Tiffany,
in defense of Baby Mama, its the haters that have no life and wait all day for J & K stories to pop up, stories about people they DISLIKE! Now that's sad... Unless Baby Mama has some type of radar installed somewhere, I highly doubt she sits all day and waits for stories to appear, I would attribute her being first as a mere coincidence, right Baby Mama?
I am interested to know why haters have been stopping by so much lately, I guess the GWOP site is getting a bit boring, it must be all the repetition... I understand!
Baby Mama, keep up the good work!
Tiffany said...
"I WAS the first one out there with this story, since US Magazine had posted it on their site minutes before"
Wow Baby Mama, you must seriously have no life. Do you just sit around waiting for Jon and Kate stories to appear?
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Tiffany- do you have a life? We all read this blog because we enjoy the show and the family. But it would seem to me that you do not. So why waste your time on a fan site. Dont you have anything better to do with your time than surf the internet and say hateful things about people you dont know??
BabyMama, you do a great job! We appreciate your blog!
This reeks of a publicity stunt to me. How better to keep J&K on the radar until the new season starts. Look at the coverage they are getting! This is the television business after all. Everything we see of this family is post-edit, and carefully crafted in a TLC office. (I recall Jon saying that filming the show is just a date on the calendar, not their entire life.) I am sure the Gosselins will be paid handsomely for the embarrassment they will endure over the next few weeks. Until the new season starts, to record ratings. Grain of salt, people... Grain of salt.
J&K are just doing whatever they can to ensure some financial security for their family. Nobody's perfect. I expect a little more drama and a happy ending. After all, America loves a comeback.
I agree mostly with 420Mom... The show had the highest rating for the season finale with the other garbage about Jon at the bar.... It just seems a little strange that he would do the same thing or raise the ante a little right before the next season starts. Jon and Kate are business savvy now and they know they are being watched constantly. That marriage is intact and the family business is thriving. Good for them...
I'm not a hater or a fan nor am I a troll being snarky. I'm merely stating my opinion. I guess I'm trying really hard to see why some worship Kate. My goodness she's just a woman and a Mother like a million women. There are many familys of multiples who manage somehow without living in the public eye. Like I've read in some of your own posts when someone is negative towards her she is for some reason just human. On the other hand some of you seem to think she is a Goddess. I'm confused as to why that is. Could someone please enlighten me? I feel sorry for the children is another point I'm trying to make. Kate NEEDS to be home with her family. Don't y'all think she has made more than enough money to raise these sweethearts? If what 420Mom feels is going on then why would any loving parent agree to something that low? Please try to understand my point. All I'm looking for is an explaination, nothing more, nothing less. Why am I considered a troll just because I don't think the Gosselin's are perfect? Why is Jon made out to be at fault all of the time? Jon is a man and Jon is human. Humans NEED and crave love and attention, not harshness all the time. I know we only see a part of their life but the part we see always makes Jon look like the bad person here. Again, I ask to be enlightened. Someone said that the snarks complain she had no job, now they complain she is always gone. This is true. What's wrong with being a normal hardworking family? Trust in the Lord to provide.
I know I have hit nerves here and I don't mean too. I am here because I know you people worship Kate. I am not asking these questions at hate sights because I want straight, real answers. I'm asking you to remove your blinders and merely be honest. You surely cannot believe Kate is doing the right thing.
Babymama, kick me off if you feel the need. I would understand if someone were wanting me to answer these questions and I truly looked at her thinking she was someone to cherish and look up too. There would be no hard feelings at all.
I am having a hard time swallowing that this was for the sake of publicity. What wife and mother would agree to their husband "appear" to be cheating? I just cannot wrap my brain that it was a publicity stunt, at the expense of their childrens dignity and privacy... add to the fact that we are nearly a month out from new episodes. Don't you think that if it was a sick and twisted publicity stunt that this would've surfaced much closer to the season 5 premiere?
I don't know Kate personally, but I have a hard time grasping that she would go along with a publicity stunt that disrupts their marriage vows and Christian family values.
As much as I adore the Gosselin children and have enjoyed watching them grow and develop into individuals, I hope this is the end of their TV careers. Time to shut the blinds... we don't need to peek into your window anymore to see how you survive with twins and sextuplets. Time to focus and heal the family and marriage.
End rant. :) ::steps down from soapbox::
Bunny Girl~ Normally I just save myself the energy and delete posts like this. But I am quickly going to answer all of your questions since you ASKED FOR AN EXPLAINATION: Please read carefully because HERE IT IS: (And please, for those trolls that constantly ask for explanations as you so frequently, do read up. I wont do it again..) SORRY THIS IS LONG!
Your 100% accuarate that Kate is just a woman and a Mother like a million women just like myself.
You are also correct that many families of multiples manage without living in the public eye. But funny, several now have seen how lucrative TV is and SEVERAL have now ventured to TV.
"When someone is negative towards her she is for some reason just human." Yes, she is! Would you nat want her to be? Would you rather just be nasty and attack her like so many others simply because she has money and in your opinion doesnt need more?
"On the other hand some of you seem to think she is a Goddess. I'm confused as to why that is. Could someone please enlighten me?" Please woman. No one thinks shes a Goddess and that's just troll speak for having an issue with the fact that THIS IS A FREAKING FAN SITE!! Why is this so hard for people to understand? Must ALL the sites be jealous haters that have issues with women like Kate taking advantage of her hit TV show by making millions in book deals and endorsements?? Can she PRIVATELY deal with the issues of her marriage and NOT feel the need to address it in the press. PLEASE LISTEN AND READ HERE IS YOUR EXPLANATION. I am a fan of Kate Gosselin. I admire alot (but not all) of her qualities. I AM EXPLAINING TO YOU SO READ UP! I have blogged for months now because I am a FAN of the show. Nobody thinks shes a Goddess (or if you do, then good for you.) I feel that she is a GOOD MOTHER. I admire all she has done to ensure financial security of her children. If I was KATE I would do all she did and more. GOT IT?
"I feel sorry for the children is another point I'm trying to make. Kate NEEDS to be home with her family. Don't y'all think she has made more than enough money to raise these sweethearts?" You can NEVER have enough money dear. Stop wishing the show would end so she stops getting more. Stop feeling like you know better than her how to raise her children. They are hers and she does what she feels is in the best interest for them. Stop thinking that you or anyone else knows better how to raise someone elses children!
"Please try to understand my point. All I'm looking for is an explaination, nothing more, nothing less. Why am I considered a troll just because I don't think the Gosselin's are perfect?" Bunny, understand that I am using your post as an example as I get about 10 of these a day I delete. Lets define a troll vs. a hater:
1. Trolls watch the show occasionally, enjoy the internet banter and watch the show occasionally. They ask questions like these because they think that sites like these are for worshiping Goddesses. They start out with simple posts I keep on the site. Once they see they can post here and not get deleted they come back for a few days and try again. Once the posts get nasty and I delete them, they go back to their bridge and go home.
Haters: They watch new episodes RELIGIOUSLY. 10 minutes in they run to Loonie Moon's or GWOP site to snark about Kate's hair or how the Tups didn't get to eat a cupcake. They bash on this site and call me names hoping I will respond or get a rise out of me. Depressed that I just laugh in their faces, they go back to the show and wait till the next commercial. In other words "Closet Fans".
Why is Jon made out to be at fault all of the time? Jon is a man and Jon is human. Humans NEED and crave love and attention, not harshness all the time." Oh sweetie that qoute is just too funny and I will let that humor answer itself.
"What's wrong with being a normal hardworking family? Trust in the Lord to provide." They ARE a hard working family dear. Just not YOUR interpretation of it.
I hope that I was able to give you the straight, real answers you requested. I never had blinders but I feel you need to see you have them on yourself. You and the other are just too narrow minded to see that. blinders and merely be honest. Kate is 100% DOING THE RIGHT THING.
"Babymama, kick me off if you feel the need. I would understand if someone were wanting me to answer these questions and I truly looked at her thinking she was someone to cherish and look up too. There would be no hard feelings at all" I gave you the courtesy to answer your questions, I don't think you need to stay here if your not a fan of the show. So I wish you well on your way back home to the bridge............
Goodness, all this debate..
First, I would like to input that any eyewitness in National Inquirer is a bunch of bologna. The world would have ended a few hundred times and our earth would have already been inhabited by aliens and mutated animals. With that being said..
I do agree that Jon made a bad judgement going out to a bar. I don't think he went there with the motive to cheat on his wife but he should be aware that he "is" on tv and even though he may not want to end friendships he should consider how he pursues these friendships. Invite them for dinner with the family, whatever. But you allow tongues to run wild when you go alone. I think he missed the bachelor stage so he's probably having some sort of midlife crisis, but I pray what he says about caring for his family is true and we see it in the upcoming season. He needs to embrace the responsibility he has to his wife and children.
And now I have added my two cents..do we have a dollar yet?
Shelly, I didn't post here a couple months ago so why are you putting words in my mouth??
Babymama, do you know the definition of "EXCLUSIVE"???? Just wondering
Have everyone forgotten that Jon did not want to have any more children and Kate defied him? He used to say he was happy with a family of 4. She should have respected his wishes/beliefs instead of going back to the fertility doctor. I thought it was unfair that Kate put this burden on him when he did not want the responsibility of having more children. There is no compromise if someone in a relationship does not want more children and he/she shouldn’t have been forced into this position by conceit or defy. It’s akin to tricking your husband/boyfriend by poking holes in the condoms or skipping your birth control. I also feel for Jon as he is trying out his new role as a stay-at-home dad and I don’t think he has to live his life to fans’ standards. If he wants to go out at 2 am, let him. He’s an adult. Who cares it was a bar vs. a movie theater, let’s say. There is no law against that, after all. I see that many people think he has to be with the children 24/7 and cannot just have a nighttime babysitter for some man time to himself. Who are they to say that? I’m not certain why a pap thought snapping a picture of him in the car was a good idea. He has no privacy because they chose to bring the camera into their life. This would not have happened if they were just an ordinary family. He would not have to have to explain every single thing he does or says to the public on a constant basis. If he had not done anything wrong, why does he have to explain it to anyone? Just because there was a picture, we did not see the entire scene from start to end so we have no right to judge him. However it seems that Kate has come to expect the public to feed, clothe and shelter her family on our dime. That is not a great moral value to pass on to your children. I do wonder if he is allowed to have friends visit him at home since everything is Kate’s way or no way. That might explain why he chose to do that instead. t doesn’t seem he has no input in this household, if he still exists in her eyes. I don’t even think he is allowed to express his preference of how their children should be raised because Kate will just make him eat it. She has not said one positive thing about him as a father and husband in a long time. She has not said he is a good hand-on father and encourages him to keep doing it. All she does is questioning his judgment & telling him not to play with his children on his day off and tells him when to speak and breath. She didn’t praise him for doing the morning routines with the twins; she simply said ‘I’m not a morning person’. Who cares? She is their mother and he is their father. They should be presenting as a unified unit since the children will look at them as the major roles in their life. They do not come off as equal parents in my opinion.
http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009/04/jon-gosselin-on.html
Wow! This article quotes them as saying they have up to 200 cars parked on the country road outside their home on any given day!!
That must be so surreal.
ThePaginator~ do you read any of the posts?? I mean you go to other sites talking smack you should at LEAST read what I write. I am moving this post so you and the other trolls can see it.....
Jennifer I agree with your posts 100%. they are great!
And since the trolls are being extra snarky today, let me just clarify...At the time I first did this post I WAS the first one out there with this story, since US Magazine had posted it on their site minutes before. Hence "the exclusive.." now everyone including my mother (figure of speech people)has this story up. But I decided not to change it. So there.... ;)
Bunny girl,
Do you realize this is a fan site? If you realize it is a fan site then you would also realize you are the one who looks foolish here. I do not understand why you cannot except that people have different opinions than you and just let it be. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Just because some of our opinions are different from yours does not make either of us wrong! Common sense should tell you not to come to a fan site and expect us to share your opinions when you obviously do not care all that much for the show.
Baby Mama
Thanks for making this a place where we can come and discuss our views without so much drama, usually! :)
Wow, the maturity level here is astounding.
Angie said...
I do not understand why you cannot except that people have different opinions than you and just let it be...
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Corrected entry:
I do not understand why you cannot accept that people have different opinions than you and just let it be.
Where does anyone say Kate is a goddess? Where did anyone say they worshipped her? Is it because we don't HATE her very being? Is that what worship means to some people? Since we are not estatic that she is going thru a rough patch in her marriage that means we worship her?
I don't get some people. I can only speak for me. I like what I see on TV. I think she's funny. I also think she can be moody. That isn't enough for me to hate her. I don't see the show as child exploitation. I don't see how love tapping her husband is abuse. So Jon didn't want more children. Obviously he changed his mind since they have 6 more.
If you hate the show, don't watch it. If you think they are exploiting their kids, write your senator or congressman to get a law passed. Snarking on Kate's hair, tan, dress and grooming, Jon's lack of masculinity; that gets nothing of any value accomplished.
If your main problem with this family is the amount freebies they get, then you need to take a step back and look deep within yourself. What they get has nothing whatsoever to do with you. They are not taking anything from you. That sounds like a jealousy issue.
And does anyone here read on the princess boards where they snark on the GWOPpers? That brings on the funny.
I think a lot of people forget how young Jon and Kate are to have so much responsibility given to them. They have both made some mistakes. Show me someone who hasn't. I think the best thing is to let them work out their marriage in their own way. I know I would not want a lot of people poking their noses into my marriage. I love the show. I am glad there is going to be a season 5. But their family and their marriage has to come first and it is up to the two of them to decide when or if to quit the show without a lot of outsiders trying to influence them. As for the recent Jon incident, we weren't there and don't know for sure what happened. I am keeping an open mind for the present.
I 100% agree with Bizzimom who commented on the maturity level in this...it is comical, I might be able to give up watching The Office or 30ROCK, this is more entertaining and funny, reading virtually anonymous women "yell" and "argue" with one another. It's hilarious! It's a fansite people! Still laughing!!! :)
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/jon-and-kate-dad-i-showed-poor-judgment/21926?nc#comments this actricle was yahoo news #1 story on there.People are really making a big deal out of nothing!
Wow- I totally agree with bizimom about the maturity level here. I think I've had more mature discussions with my eight year old niece. It's ridiculous! Even though this is a fansite, we all have freedom of speech and are entitled to our opinions and have the right to share them. We should be able to have a rational discussion that shows both sides of the equations. We can all learn something from one another. Now, on to my next point-
I think one reason many people have an issue with Kate as a mother is because of how she portrays her parenting style on the show. We know she is hardly ever home, due to her book signings all over the country. This is how she makes a living for her family. This is what she wants to do. However, for her to proclaim on these shows that they only have one helper who stays only a few hours a day is just plain ludicrous. She needs to come clean that she does not have a "helper", she has a nanny. Period.
The time that she is at home is probably spent filming the show. She is extremely busy and it only makes sense that this would be the time they would use for filming. When they are filming, it's always showing some staged activity that they are participating in. Did the kids really need to be running around dangerous equipment on the Going Green episode? No. It just seems that they just needed the kids to be in the shot. I am not a "hater" nor am I a "troll", I am just giving my perception of what I see. It also annoys me that everytime those two are on camera together, Kate manages to belittle Jon in some type of way. This could be attributed to bad editing, and I do believe that TLC is exploiting this family and they're not really intelligent enough to see it. They're young and they're still vain. Money talks. I really think Kate and Jon believed that money would solve all their problems when all it did was create new ones. Sorry if this was long, but I just had to share my insight.
Baby Mama: Several months ago you published some of Kate's favorite recipes which I copied, however, on a rerun the other day Kate said her Vegetable Soup contains cabbage and zucchini and the recipe you gave did not. Therefore, is it correct to assume that the recipes you featured are not authentic Kate recipes?
I'm so saddened what I've read in the press this week and by comments about it similar to ones along the line of Season 5 being even more popular because the tabloid articles are increasing interest in their show and the new season.
I'm so, so sad that no matter what or why J&K are in the magazines, whether it's the truth, rumor, or lie, it is still hurtful to the people involved and the people we should be most concerned about are the innocent 8 children.
This is not healthy for any of the 10 people involved. I had hoped that when I checked in to the blog that I'd see more comments supporting the family union, working on the marriage, the family, and stopping the cameras, but sadly I found many bloggers feeding on the controvercy saying it will make the next season stronger for TLC.
My opinion? Jon did indeed use very poor judgement in going out late at night, drinking and driving, and being photographed with a single younger woman. Whether nothing happened is irrelevant. He has children at home to take care of. He broke the law by drinking and driving. And, he opened himself up to speculation about his marriage and potentially hurt his children because of what they'll see and hear.
Only 2 people can solve this problem and that's J&K. I'd love to see them stand up to any and all criticism and speculation and stop the show to devote their time and energy on mending their fractured family and marriage. Right now I have very little respect for either one of them. If they'd stop the show and the associated activities I would put them at the top of my list of people I respect and admire. I could easily cry for the hurt the children will endure because of the poor decisions of their parents.
Only time will show us what they decide to do - if anything. And, what their priorities are and aren't.
Lovethegosselinkids~ I know the maturity level here has gotten out of hand. But I tried to be really open this time and allow different types of view and comments into the mix for what I THOUGHT could be a healthy discussion. I see I was wrong. This is FIRST AND FOREMOST a fan site. And It will get back to hat I promise. Anyone that doesn't have more positive thoughts of this family can simply go elsewhere.
April~ If you watch the Soup & Surprise episode, Kate said that SOMETIMES her Vegetable Soup contains cabbage and zucchini. General Grandmas soup doesn't have that. I did not add that into the recipe as I didn't know how much to put down to make it EXACTLY like that. I kept it out, as she did state that sometimes its without.
Her cookbook is coming in October. It will be in there, hopefully with the exact amount she uses. Feel free to add in what you wish or wait for her book!
steph said:
He broke the law by drinking and driving
We do NOT know this. There is no proof that A he was drunk or 2 that he drove home. He might of gotten a cab, had the girl drive him home etc.
The assumptions being made by a photo of a girl DRIVING his car are ridiculous. We don't know if he cheated, if he was drunk or if he drove. That's all.
I meant to say A. and B. not A. and then 2.
Baby Mama, I am a little confused by your answer to my soup question. Simply put, what I wanted to know is whether or not the recipes you featured are really Kate's authentic recipes or are they your version of some of Kate's favorite dishes?
If they are genuinely Kate's own recipes how did you get them?
Paginator, I did not say you posted here a couple months ago. I said you would be adding your 2 cents on this post soon. You are never far behind with your ridiculous stories and opinions.
April~ I answered you and don't know why your still confused. Are you asking me if I personally went to Kate's house and asked for her recipies? Of course not. It was literally one of the first posts I did on this blog. Whenever I watched the episdoe where she was making something I liked I posted it down. Thats it. Are you the recipe police or something? Or does each recipe require a certificate of authenticity?
Again, your best bet if your not happy with the ones on my site is to buy her cookbook. I can tell you they will all be there.
you post may 1st about 'tentative' dates of 4/29? I am missing something...
The other night I caught an old episode of Jon and Kate Plus Eight and the difference between then and now is startling. In the old episode, they looked happy and affectionate and their body language showed how very much together they were. I think they didn't have all the money and attention and things were not easy but they were happy.
Everyone famous will tell you that fame is a double-edged sword. They are now financially secure and able to be with their family 24/7 but at what price? A gated house, separation from family and close friends, 200 cars a day on your road, being targeted by paparazzi and every move being scrutinized. Jon in the last episode of last season looked absolutely miserable. I don't think it is a stretch to say that this is not what he envisioned when they started this.
I am not a hater and I am not a lover. I am someone who can look at a situation and know that it is bad and beginning to get worse. IMHO it would be far better to let the show go and just raise their children and lead a quiet life. I think they are still at the point where they could do that and people will slowly forget and their children can grow up without the constant scrutiny. I only see this ending badly and the losers will be their children.
I also think it is very hard for them having struggled through Jon's unemployment and not having tons of money to just walk away from what must seem a sure thing. I wish them all the best.
Min~ So sorry! I made a mistake with the dates. Kate is scheduled to appear on the 700 club on Monday May 11th for an interview for the book "Eight Little Faces". I don't know the time yet.
I also know that is scheduled to do an interview with the Washington Post. If anyone has any date info please let me know. Sorry about the confusion!
Sue said...
Steph wrote: He broke the law by drinking and driving.
We do NOT know this. There is no proof that A he was drunk or 2 that he drove home. He might of gotten a cab, had the girl drive him home etc.
The assumptions being made by a photo of a girl DRIVING his car are ridiculous. We don't know if he cheated, if he was drunk or if he drove. That's all.
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Sue, I'm not making any assumptions based on a photo of a girl driving his car and I certainly never implied he cheated. I simply used the quotes from the article in the mag and deduced that if he was simply showing the girl his car and was taking her back to her car as stated, that he probably drove himself home from there. If he was still under any of the influence of alcohol (as described in the interview) he was in no condition to be driving himself home. My hopes are that he called someone to drive him home. But, along with his self described lack of judgement that night I'm lumping in driving himself home along with the other slip-ups he made.
Driving under the influence kills people and more than anything else that happened or didn't that night; I'm more concerned about the fact that he MAY have been behind the wheel of a fast car while under the influence than any of his other indescretions that night. I wish more people were upset by this than are. Even if he was only partially as under the influence as the article described, he needed a driver. Most people who drive themselves to a bar and drink usually plan to get themselves home the same way - or have friends there as a D.D.
Again, I'm more concerned about what 'could' easily have happened than pointing fingers about things I have no facts to support. Only putting interviews together and thinking about a tragedy that could have easily happened...
I think Kate is an amazing woman and Jon is very lucky to have her.
I think it's very sad that a magazine had to scoop so low and publish this! Leave them alone already! What are the parents supposed to say when the children who can read ask, Mommy who is that women with daddy? I sure don't believe this is true. Not for one minute!
The last episode, Jon clearly wish to consider stop taping the show. In light of this recent negative publicity, which could have been influencing his wishes, do you think it is time to stop? Kate, on the other hand, loved being part of a reality show and didn't want to stop.
Are the financial gains or Kate's enjoyment of this form of career worth the cost of turmoil this family will experience now and in the future.
Traditional celebrities actors (vs reality celebrities) do realize the cost of fame, but they go out of their way to protect their children who are not in the spotlight. But in this situation where the kids are part of the fame or part of the show, I don't see how you can separate the two.
I think the decisions Kate and Jon as well as TLC make in the next few weeks could have a profound effect on the children's future. I hope TLC and their sponsors are taking a look at the situation since they are a family channel and this type of publicity could have negative effects on them too. Yet, ratings equal money and perhaps they will wait and see if the ratings will remain high since many will now tune in to see if there is a train wreak in the making with this young family. If this happens, I consider all parties selfish when you consider there are minors involved and they have disregarding the consequences the children will experience with the negative publicity.
I completely agree with you MaryC. These poor children need someone on their side. It horrifies me that their pictures are out there for every weirdo known to man to pour over. I wish someone would think of them for a change instead of just how much money there is to be made. From what I read Kate wasn't even home with them through any of this and my bet would be she was not there for their B-day or Mother's day.
Blondie~ Give me a break. I was going to delete your post when I realized I needed to address it. Underage photos are on the internet. What stops any unhealthy person for picking anything on the web? Its ridiculous to say that a photo of these particular children are the only things they, or anyone else are viewing.
Jon & Kate know what are in the best interests for their kids. No one has the right to tell them otherwise. (I don't know what I would do if anyone told ME how to raise my kids!) I wish people would stop thinking they know whats best for these kids other than their own parents.
And for the record, the East coast signing dates allowed Kate several times to go back home the same day esp. the New Jersey & NY dates. And as a matter of fact, we all have seen photos of Kate out and about on Mothers Day and at home on the Tups actual birthday. So rest assured, she was home that day!
I tend to think Kate was home on Mother's Day and most days recently since I believe she would like to avoid the recent publicity.
Personally, I would not put my children's pictures on the Internet. It is not a safe world we live in and protecting my children is my responsibility. But that is me and not everyone would agree with this.
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